tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post8440059194602327320..comments2023-04-15T16:25:27.142+02:00Comments on Complementary Training: 6 weeks running program for soccer playersMladen Jovanovićhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10496128173509866986noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-64267963001161011972016-01-26T06:46:05.290+01:002016-01-26T06:46:05.290+01:00Our site gives basic Soccer practices (or soccer i...Our site gives basic <a href="http://www.touchtight.com/" rel="nofollow">Soccer practices</a> (or soccer instructing for a few!) practices that create you as either player or mentor in your own improvement. Our football hones and strategic arrangements offer our football some assistance with coaching figure out how to apply fundamental footballing standards to disentangle the football honing process. These straightforward representations of practice movements and key focuses, permit you, as the mentor, to concentrate on particular specialized point of interest in player and mentor change.Herry Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336899634205525690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-50943502735130572482015-01-22T01:55:36.707+01:002015-01-22T01:55:36.707+01:00hi mladen. do you if it is possible to calculate M...hi mladen. do you if it is possible to calculate MAS based on results of yoyo level 2.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12484322818308891284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-46423704863657143602014-01-21T23:05:46.171+01:002014-01-21T23:05:46.171+01:00You can also find more regarding the endurance tra...You can also find more regarding the endurance training here: <br />http://www.complementarytraining.blogspot.se/2012/09/running-based-conditioning-for-team.html<br /><br />As for abs - those are 'fillers', a way to break the pause and do something usable. If you have access to medball you can use MB throws with partner, or even rubber bad work (e.g. chops, Palloff press, etc). <br /><br />Hope that this make some senseMladen Jovanovićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10496128173509866986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-9581819259108784092014-01-21T22:59:22.963+01:002014-01-21T22:59:22.963+01:00Hi Lieven,
Thanks for the feedback. Have you read...Hi Lieven,<br /><br />Thanks for the feedback. Have you read a paper by Martin Buchheit - Football-specific fitness testing: adding value or confirming the evidence? http://www.researchgate.net/publication/256118554_Football-specific_fitness_testing_adding_value_or_confirming_the_evidence<br /><br />I have expanded on this logic a bit here - http://www.complementarytraining.blogspot.com/2013/11/not-so-random-thoughts-november-2013.html <br /><br />I hope that this post will give you some answers. In short - sport/specific tests could be used as 'benchmarks', but most of them don't provide any informations on limiting factors or something you could use to plan training. They have a purpose, but for this plan I have chosen 1600m run because you can use average velocity to plan training. You cannot do that with YoYo test for example. <br /><br />Mladen Jovanovićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10496128173509866986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-72528530557719287912014-01-21T19:59:40.526+01:002014-01-21T19:59:40.526+01:00Hi Mladen,
You have a fantastic blog.
I have one q...Hi Mladen,<br />You have a fantastic blog.<br />I have one question. If testing should be training specific and training of course is sport/game specific, then why do you test MAS for soccer players in a 1600m run? That is not very football specific, isn't it.<br />And if football were to be an interval sport, maybe even during your extensive runs you could make it an interval type training?<br />Also considering your abs and core workout, things have evolved. Crunches and static planking is not very useful for football players (or for anybody for all that matters).<br /><br />Thank you,<br /><br />LievenLievenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08158484951535368789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-67000654578424898332013-07-16T20:58:33.738+02:002013-07-16T20:58:33.738+02:00Most team sport athletes will have issues/problems...Most team sport athletes will have issues/problems with active recovery with longer HIT (>1min). If needed it might be passive (during which you can do some mobility/stretching if needed) and then progress to more active rest. Mladen Jovanovićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10496128173509866986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-6747739404663995562013-07-14T21:56:50.838+02:002013-07-14T21:56:50.838+02:00Hi Mladen,
Thanks for your blog. I found many inte...Hi Mladen,<br />Thanks for your blog. I found many interesting articles ;)<br />I've got one question about this.<br /><br />"Run at 97.5-102.5% MAS for 3-4 minutes<br />Jog at 50-70% MAS for 3-4 minutes (1:1 work to rest)<br /><br />The progression is the following:<br /><br />Workout #1<br />4x3 minutes with 3 minutes recovery..."<br /><br />Can you let me know, is there any rest for strechng or something, between sets 3min run /3 min jog, or you treat jog as a rest and you doing run, jog, run, jog, run, jog in 18-24 minutes without any brake ?<br />Regards<br />Rafalsza-vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04717312813394346086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-72936719553040601702013-03-03T15:53:24.614+01:002013-03-03T15:53:24.614+01:00Thanks, Mladen. Great work.Thanks, Mladen. Great work.Gerardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11274200138622714543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-41702055029267937562013-03-03T08:01:20.715+01:002013-03-03T08:01:20.715+01:00Gerard, that is essentially the STRIDES workout in...Gerard, that is essentially the STRIDES workout in this plan (and explosive repeat in the new table). Mladen Jovanovićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10496128173509866986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-66772685083955399972013-02-26T22:36:41.414+01:002013-02-26T22:36:41.414+01:00Hi Mladen,
I remember that you used an Extensive ...Hi Mladen,<br /><br />I remember that you used an Extensive Tempo workout, something like 100m for 18sec, 50m walk (40sec), 200m for 38sec et cetera, or recommended it on CF forum. Do you still advocate that workout or evolved something different?<br />Gerardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11274200138622714543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-76828997491832689172013-01-29T21:52:41.827+01:002013-01-29T21:52:41.827+01:00Hi Alex,
I agree - It is brutal. Do-ability of th...Hi Alex,<br /><br />I agree - It is brutal. Do-ability of this type of workout depends how was MAS measured. Since MAS I measured was tested using 1500-1600m run that lasts aprox. 6min, running at that pace for 3-4 min shouldn't be impossible, especially if you start with 3 first :) <br /><br />Having MAS measure with some other protocols (say treadmil with 1min stages with increments for 1 km-h instead of 2 min stages) might yield a lot higher MAS. Thus, testing should be 'training specific' as Martin Buchheit love to say. <br /><br />I would agree - one could start with 50% during the recovery and if the phases are longer one could speed up the recovery a bit. Thanks for the input.<br /><br />BTW, Steve Magness is not so big fan of these VO2max intervals - you can check the 'critique' here:<br />http://www.scienceofrunning.com/2009/08/do-we-need-vo2max-workouts.htmlMladen Jovanovićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10496128173509866986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-29672115950110942622013-01-22T02:55:40.841+01:002013-01-22T02:55:40.841+01:00Hi Mladen
'Run at 97.5-102.5% MAS for 3-4 min...Hi Mladen<br /><br />'Run at 97.5-102.5% MAS for 3-4 minutes<br />Jog at 50-70% MAS for 3-4 minutes'<br /><br />That is brutal. Haha.<br /><br />I have done and prescribed this kind of workout (back when it was known as Billat vV02max workouts). Haven't found a single sole, even elite runners that can do 100% MAS for 3 minutes, followed by anything above 50% MAS for 3 minutes. Let alone repeat this for 4 reps plus maintain 100% MAS and staying in the 'ideal' heart rate zone. <br /><br />Having said that I am a huge fan of this style of programming, particularly when in a 'high/low CNS' system. The 100% MAS runs generally can be considered as 'low' (<75% of true Maximal Speed), whilst true speed work can be done either the day before or after. <br /><br />Alex<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04924685043194190108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-87516574093365530762013-01-16T19:43:25.696+01:002013-01-16T19:43:25.696+01:00Yes, this is simple template when it comes SOLELY ...Yes, this is simple template when it comes SOLELY to conditioning in a period without practices and occasional 5v5 :)<br /><br />The full plan would include strength work, speed work, etc - but that would take me too long to write and it needs to be put into context that follows/precedes. Mladen Jovanovićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10496128173509866986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-79076924389028137102013-01-15T23:59:40.390+01:002013-01-15T23:59:40.390+01:00Hi Mladen.
Thanks for another informative post.
...Hi Mladen.<br /><br />Thanks for another informative post.<br /><br />I was wondering about the scope for speed/power work to be incorporated into this template? This is supposing now techincal/tactical practice or matchplay is taking place.<br /><br />Again thanks for the great content.<br /><br />Callum Roberts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07598811520241925462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-33141609957125431872013-01-03T19:34:19.349+01:002013-01-03T19:34:19.349+01:00Thanks for the response Mladen! I found the earlie...Thanks for the response Mladen! I found the earlier blog posts detailing extensive v intensive training. I appreciate the feedback.Sean Steelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00237439439276775546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-88583749460024832712013-01-03T19:32:06.945+01:002013-01-03T19:32:06.945+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Prairie Wolves Soccerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15617273729781047354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-42546638239229881172013-01-03T12:40:26.038+01:002013-01-03T12:40:26.038+01:00Hi Sean,
Thank you for the question. I've inc...Hi Sean,<br /><br />Thank you for the question. I've included the runs below MAS because there are no soccer practices in that period and there should be some 'volume'-extensive work. I am all for high intensity runs, but there should be some volume work included. During the pre-season and in-season volume work comes from practices itself and there is no need to spend much time in those zones during running-based conditioning. <br /><br />I believe that both extensive and intensive training methods are important and their ratio should be managed over the season. <br /><br />I highly recommend checking blog and articles by Steve Magness - I have linked to his work numerous times in my blogs. <br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />Mladen <br /><br />Mladen Jovanovićhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10496128173509866986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1721936663537182702.post-45822677108254028272013-01-02T23:51:56.157+01:002013-01-02T23:51:56.157+01:00Mladen,
Great to see MAS training put together in...Mladen,<br /><br />Great to see MAS training put together into a workout program. I was wondering if you could touch on why you include training at less the 100% of the MAS score within this program.<br /><br />My first introduction to MAS training was from Dan Baker and one of the cornerstones of his MAS training was that more time should be spent above 100% MAS and closer to the 120% mark. <br /><br />http://www.danbakerstrength.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Receng-trends-in-high-intensity-aerobic_training.pdf <br /><br />Just so you don't take the question the wrong way - I ask because I don't know. I don't have a exercise science background and I'm trying to expand my knowledge of the subject.<br /><br />And as long as I'm here - when are you going to get on twitter? I've gained so much from you blogs I'd love to see more from you.<br /><br />Thanks for all your helpSean Steelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00237439439276775546noreply@blogger.com